5 Myths I’ve heard about Xbox Gamepass

I’m a big fan of Game Pass. I see many positives to it, and frankly little to no negatives. It is no surprise to me that Game Pass surpassed 10 million subscribers as of late April according to various media outlets. It is unclear what composition of these 10 million subscribers are Game Pass for Console, Game Pass for PC, or like myself subscribers of Game Pass Ultimate. However, 10 million is still a large number. In my view, it is not large enough. Many more people can benefit from the Game Pass subscription. Many have wondered how many subscribers to Game Pass there will be once “soccer moms” and “soccer dads” learn about it. These terms refer to people unlike me (although my kids player soccer) that don’t follow gaming news and/or their households have very casual or infrequent gaming sessions However, I’ve heard some myths out there about Game Pass that are either misleading, at best a half-truth, or flat wrong that could have stopped folks from signing up by now. Let’s address five that I’ve personally heard.

  1. Game Pass is just Halo, Gears, and a bunch of filler.

Anyone that knows even a little about Game Pass knows that this statement is quite silly. This is likely just some fanboy-ism of a competing platform that is trying to cloak itself in, at best – ignorance, or worse – an attempt to completely mischaracterize the service. But if you’re friends with people like that and don’t know anyone who currently subscribes to Game Pass, you might have believed them. But, let’s expose this first myth. A lot of people like Halo. A lot of people like the Gears franchise. However, people also like The Witcher 3, which of as of April has sold over 28 million copies worldwide. What? Game Pass (for console) has The Witcher 3? You mean the same Witcher from the Netflix show? Yes! That one! It also recently had Grand Theft Auto V, which is the highest selling game across multiple platforms the last few years. It also currently has Red Dead Redemption 2, which broke many console sales records it’s first launch weekend in late 2018. Filler, you say? Just for clarity, I’m not recommending any of those games in particular for the children of said soccer parents.

According to Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass website, there are 240 games currently on Game Pass for Console and 197 on Game Pass for PC. I’ve only mentioned three games so far. Granted, I’ve mentioned really really great games, but intentionally more-so well-known games (or franchises) to highlight a point so that hopefully these named examples will sound familiar to the soccer moms and soccer dads out there. Personally, I’ve only actually played one of those three that I mentioned. Why? Because there are so many other great games that I’ve spent time playing and I just can’t find the time to play all of them. I’ll mention more of those other games a little later, but just a handful of others I’ll mention to deal the finishing blow to this myth would be Batman Arkham Knight (sold 5 million copies in its first few months after launch), Rocket League, which if I’m going to reach the soccer moms or dads then maybe I should mention that this game was actually part of the center plot to an episode of Fuller House on Netflix, and Untitled Goose Game which won game of the year at the DICE 2020 awards. Again, I could keep going about the games, but I’m sure at some point that I have a character limit. Let’s move on, and I’ll do my best to stop saying soccer moms and soccer dads.

2. If I play games on Game Pass, I’m not supporting developers.

There may be lack of business knowledge to this one. Yes, in a perfect world, we would all be able to pay $60 on the release date for every game we’ve ever wanted to play. And indeed, this would put the maximum amount of net profit dollars into the pocket of your favorite developer or a developer that you think did an amazing job on a game. And there’s no argument to that. Heck, if you love a developer enough, buy their Day 1 special edition, buy hats and shirts, and gift additional copies of their game to friends and family. That’s what I would do if money weren’t an issue. However, the average person does not have that sort of disposable income to buy every new game, even if you tend to like every game that comes out. I do know a handful of people that seemingly buy every game on day 1 and I wonder how they do it. But guess what? Those same people are also subscribed to Game Pass, so who knows?

For those of us without unlimited disposable income, other hobbies to throw money at, or have varying long term financial goals, we can’t buy everything. This is partly why many of us are on Game Pass. But, allow me to insert Morpheus from The Matrix and say, “what if I told you that most developers are receiving financial compensation for their game to be on Game Pass?” It’s true. Developers don’t just say “well, shucks looks like we can’t sell anymore copies of our game, so let’s just throw it on Game Pass.” And the data showing the number of downloads and time spent playing the individual Game Pass games is no doubt being collected. If the developer/publisher’s game is a big hit on Game Pass, then that gives them a little bit more bargaining power (for more compensation) when it comes time to renew the Game Pass contract agreement. More people playing their game and talking about their game is free publicity and furthers their brand. However, there’s actually more to it than that. It leads up into our next one.

3. Game Pass will stop more game purchases in the future.

So I’m nearing completion of Red Dead Redemption 2 through Game Pass. It’s a very good game in my view. I probably don’t love it quite as much as some other folks, but it was a game I knew for certain that I would not buy day 1 because the genre of game tends to not be my favorite. With that said, I’ve definitely enjoyed the experience. It was clearly good enough to make me think about buying the first Red Dead game. It has also made me more likely to buy Red Dead Redemption 3 (or whatever they call it) on day 1 whenever that game releases. So Rockstar games surely didn’t get the equivalent of $60 from me playing their game on Game Pass, but they’ve exposed a new player to their game franchise which could potentially lead to more actual game sales in the future. It won’t work out this way with every game, and that’s OK. Not every game is for everyone. But to tie in with the previous point, it will support developers further.

4.You need an Xbox to have Xbox Game Pass.

Microsoft created a separate subscription service for PC players. As mentioned above, it’s called Xbox Game Pass for PC. There are well over 100 games on the service currently, and hopefully you’ll believe me by now that Game Pass is not just a bunch of filler. It is true that Game Pass for PC does not have the identical library to Game Pass for Console. There are many reasons for this, but I can see how not having an Xbox will prevent you from squeezing the most value out of Game Pass as a whole so perhaps this statement has bit of truth baked into it. With that said, this statement will likely become less true over time.

During E3 2019, Microsoft confirmed that it’s game streaming service, Project Xcloud, will be integrated at some point with Xbox Game Pass. I am currently a part of the IOS beta test group for mobile devices. I haven’t tested my Ipad yet, but I know folks who have and they say it works perfectly fine. I’ve played a few hours of Halo on my Iphone 6s. It’s not the way I prefer to play games, but it’s perfectly good quality for what it is. Further down the road when all of the beta tests are over and Game Pass and Xcloud are integrated, you will be able to utilize your Game Pass subscription on cell phones, tablets, PC’s – either download or stream it, and potentially even Smart TV’s. Microsoft and Samsung recently made an agreement for certain types of Samsung TV’s to have the Xbox Game Pass App pre-loaded on the TV. Some of these TV’s are already in people’s homes by the way. It is not crazy at all to think you will be able to stream games directly on your 4K TV at home, possibly with no intermediary device needed. I will probably always own an Xbox console. But as time goes by, owning the console will be less and less important to enjoy and take advantage of Game Pass.

5. Gamepass isn’t very good value.

I’m actually ok with this statement if they just added “for me” at the end. Maybe you only play games like FIFA or Madden. Or maybe you only play Call of Duty games, or perhaps you spend the majority of your gaming time on retro consoles and their game library. If that’s you, then the value of Game Pass may not be the best fit for you in its present format. It’s fine. We like what we like and I would not suggest someone get the Game Pass service if all they want to do is play the newest FIFA game. I get it. I stopped buying new Nintendo Switch games for my son because he just ignores them and returns to Fortnite as I’m sure many 9 year-old kids are doing these days. However, to say that Game Pass itself isn’t a good value as a general statement would be bordering on the absurd if you ask me. Let me break down how I’ve seen the value.

I’ve been a subscriber to Game Pass Ultimate for nearly a year. In that year’s time, a Game Pass Ultimate subscription has cost me $180 out of pocket. That’s 12 months at $14.99 per month. If you add up the retail prices (at places like Wal-Mart, Amazon, or Best Buy) of all the games that I’ve played through Game Pass Ultimate in that time, it is approximately a $600 value. For Xbox first party games that I’ve played on day 1, it will assume full-price, since that’s when I usually play them. First party games during this time would be Gears 5, Ori and the Will of the Wisps, Gears Tactics, Minecraft Dungeons, and The Outer Worlds to name a few. I’ve already mentioned Red Dead Redemption 2, but I’ve also played through all the newer Tomb Raider games, some of the Wolfenstein games, some of the Batman Arkham games, and many others.

But wait a minute, you wouldn’t have played ALL of those games if you didn’t have Gamepass, so you can’t say that it saved you over $400 over the last year! That’s true, I wouldn’t have played all of those games, and some of them definitely not day 1. But with a fixed cost of $180 per year, I’m experiencing much the value of the service. I don’t have to ever buy any of Microsoft’s first party games, and I get them on day 1. Even if I only played 3 regularly priced day 1 Microsoft titles per year, the service would pay for itself.

Again, I have the ultimate subscription. Currently if you just want Xbox Gamepass for console, it’s only $120 for the year ($10 per month), which drops it to 2 first party day 1 titles per year in order to be a wash. I’m using the Microsoft 1st party games as the example here because they are always there on day 1 and they never leave Game Pass, so it’s not a moving target of trying to add up 3rd party game values at different price points, but you definitely could if you wanted to. To finish off the point, I leave you with a tidbit I shared with friends on twitter on May 4th. For the calendar month (May) I would be playing the new Gears Tactics game and Red Dead Redemption 2. Out of pocket on that day, it would have cost me $98. For the month of May, it still only cost me $14.99. Value, my friends, value.

Joel Mead has been a gaming enthusiast since he got an NES for Christmas in 1990. You can follow him on Twitch where he streams occasionally, as well as follow him on Twitter .

Switch Craft Show Notes 389

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On Episode … of Nintendo Switch Craft,

There are some great games on Sale, Is there a Direct coming soon? Nintendo teases us all, plus lots of game play of upcoming games.

Those stories and more on this episode of Nintendo Switch Craft.

Intro

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GIVEAWAY!

Dragoncon

Story Links for this Episode

Capcom is having a sale on Switch

New SKUs point to an upcoming direct.

Microsoft is all over the place

Feedback

Email from Jacob

Good Evening Bill. Yesterday I traded in my Switch for the newer version. My original Switch(which I’ve had since launch) has been bricked for well over a year. I held off simply because I play in handheld mode 90% of the time regardless. But… the upgraded chip had me at hello. GameStop gave me $175 trade credit for my Bricked Switch(which I was extremely happy with) and I switched Switches! The guy at GS said something about the screen running at a lower temp or something, but I can see a difference there as well. Not as much glare for sure. I am very happy with it, I transferred my thousands of hours of save data no problem. Just wanted to share my experience with you and show. I’ve been an every episode fan for a long time. Thanks for the Show! It’s the best Nintendo podcast out there. 

Email from Connor

Here’s a few if you’re still looking for them! For me a lot of them are great SNES games that were left of the SNES classic but I still wish were available for play somewhere. Licenses be damned.
Chrono TriggerSuper, Mario All Stars, Cool Spot, Actraiser, Final Fantasy IV (not on the snes Classic but incredible, influential, and defining RPG) Donkey Kong country 2 and 3, Super Bases Loaded 3: License to Steal, TMNT IV: Turtles in Time, Super Star Wars 1-3, Lufia 2, The Magical Quest Starring Mickey Mouse

Email from Scott

Hey Bill… just listened to NSC380. You mentioned that it was ok that the extra dock doesn’t include a power adapter since Nintendo is just using “standard” USB-C chargers now. That’s actually not correct. While USB-C is indeed a standard, Nintendo’s implementation of it is non-compliant and breaks the standard, which is why some third-party chargers were damaging Switches.

So it stands that Nintendo SHOULD be including a power adapter. Even it was compliant to the standard, anyone buying a spare dock likely needs a power supply as well. But really, Nintendo shouldn’t be breaking the USB-C standard to begin with.

YouTube Comment from Lee Lee Bird

I love indie games but for some reason i get indie burnout quicker than i get AAA burnout lol Many of these blended into another.. Ori looks like Hollow Knight At first glance. MY eyes are now towards a September Direct. Great job as always RJS!

Outro

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Switch Craft Show Notes 388

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On Episode … of Nintendo Switch Craft,

The last word on Gizmodo, Gamestop disappoints, Microsoft says no, and lots of feedback from you! On this episode of Nintendo Switch Craft

Those stories and more on this episode of Nintendo Switch Craft.

Intro

Switch Craft is brought to you live every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday. Tune in live at Twitch.tv/runjumpstomp/ This episode of Switch Craft is made possible by Patrons like Tom – Get Switch Craft and my other content ad free for as little as a dollar at Patreon.com/RunJumpStomp/ Leave a voicemail for the show by heading to runjumpstomp.com/voicemail from any device, and I may play it on the show!

Dragoncon

Story Links for this Episode

Pax West will have more information about Pokemon Sword / Shield

You shouldn’t expect more Microsoft exclusives to come to Switch (Or should you?)

The best Wireless headset for Switch Lite?

Feedback

Email from Jacob

Good Evening Bill. Yesterday I traded in my Switch for the newer version. My original Switch(which I’ve had since launch) has been bricked for well over a year. I held off simply because I play in handheld mode 90% of the time regardless. But… the upgraded chip had me at hello. GameStop gave me $175 trade credit for my Bricked Switch(which I was extremely happy with) and I switched Switches! The guy at GS said something about the screen running at a lower temp or something, but I can see a difference there as well. Not as much glare for sure. I am very happy with it, I transferred my thousands of hours of save data no problem. Just wanted to share my experience with you and show. I’ve been an every episode fan for a long time. Thanks for the Show! It’s the best Nintendo podcast out there. 

Email from Connor

Here’s a few if you’re still looking for them! For me a lot of them are great SNES games that were left of the SNES classic but I still wish were available for play somewhere. Licenses be damned.
Chrono TriggerSuper, Mario All Stars, Cool Spot, Actraiser, Final Fantasy IV (not on the snes Classic but incredible, influential, and defining RPG) Donkey Kong country 2 and 3, Super Bases Loaded 3: License to Steal, TMNT IV: Turtles in Time, Super Star Wars 1-3, Lufia 2, The Magical Quest Starring Mickey Mouse

Email from Scott

Hey Bill… just listened to NSC380. You mentioned that it was ok that the extra dock doesn’t include a power adapter since Nintendo is just using “standard” USB-C chargers now. That’s actually not correct. While USB-C is indeed a standard, Nintendo’s implementation of it is non-compliant and breaks the standard, which is why some third-party chargers were damaging Switches.

So it stands that Nintendo SHOULD be including a power adapter. Even it was compliant to the standard, anyone buying a spare dock likely needs a power supply as well. But really, Nintendo shouldn’t be breaking the USB-C standard to begin with.

YouTube Comment from Lee Lee Bird

I love indie games but for some reason i get indie burnout quicker than i get AAA burnout lol Many of these blended into another.. Ori looks like Hollow Knight At first glance. MY eyes are now towards a September Direct. Great job as always RJS!

Outro

Become a part of the community at runjumpstomp.com/discord you can also watch the show live at twitch.tv/runjumpstomp. Get a hold of me by emailing me Runjumpstomp@gmail.com or you can reach out to me on Twitter @runjumpstomp Use the #NintendoSwitchCraft

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RJS Show Notes 28

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On episode ## of Run Jump Stomp….

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Xbox Controller

8bitDo Bluetooth Dongle

Story Links

Story 1

Microsoft makes all the right moves

Story 2

Story 3

Some people are upset about Bloodstained premium DLC

Story 4

Baldur’s Gate 3 teased!

Feedback

Outro

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Stadia Cast Show Notes Episode 10

Intro

Welcome back to Stadia Cast I’m Bill, I’m Lloyd, and today we’re joined by Author / Podcaster Tom Merritt

Before we get started – We record this show live! Sunday mornings at 10am Eastern at youtube.com/stadiacast. Leave a voicemail for Stadiacast by heading to runjumpstomp.com/voicemail from any device, we may even play it on the show.

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Main Discussion

Project xCloud

NEWS

Story 1

Family Link 1.3.8 has some Stadia stuff in it!

Story 2

Google stadia to use first gen AMD Vega GPU – Khronos

Story 3

Clarification on the Sony / MS deal

“broad memorandum of understanding between Sony Corporation and Microsoft”

“as of now there is no partnership between Sony and Microsoft”

Jim Ryan

Feedback

Outro

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Stadia Cast Show Notes Episode 9

Intro

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Main Discussion

Do we want Stadia to be a curated platform or open store like steam where everything and anything can be found there?

NEWS

Story 1

Under the memorandum of understanding signed by the parties, the two companies will explore joint development of future cloud solutions in Microsoft Azure to support their respective game and content-streaming services. In addition, the two companies will explore the use of current Microsoft Azure datacenter-based solutions for Sony’s game and content-streaming services. By working together, the companies aim to deliver more enhanced entertainment experiences for their worldwide customers. These efforts will also include building better development platforms for the content creator community.

Sony and Microsoft will also explore collaboration in the areas of semiconductors and AI.

Story 2

Take 2 will support Google Stadia

“You know the promise of being able to sign on to a service with virtually no barriers, without a box in between, and being able to play our games on any device whatsoever around the world, and to do it with low latency, well that’s very compelling if that can be delivered, and the folks at Google minimally have said it will be delivered and will be delivered in relatively short order.”
“Conceptually we want to be where the consumer is, and we’ll support new entrants and we are a believer in streaming services,” he added. “Again, you know we need to have business models that make sense for us. So far, we’re pretty optimistic.”

Strauss Zelnick

Civ, NBA2K WWE2K, Bioshock, Mafia, X-com, GTA, Borderlands, Red Dead

Story 3

Feedback

Outro

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Microsoft’s PlayFab Party and Switch

A Resetera user was at GDC and at the Microsoft booth they saw a Nintendo Switch. When asked the people in charge of the demo said that they were working on an SDK that would work on Xbox, Windows, Android, iOS, and Switch. They followed up with the fact that MS pitched this idea to Nintendo and described them as extremely enthusiastic and very supportive.

What does it do? It was originally designed as a voice to text accessibility feature, but ended up expanding to include leaderboards, matchmaking, party, and server/lobby support. Microsoft intends to sell the SDK to developers to help them with jump the hurdles of cross platform play.

NSC 304 – Xbox coming to Switch? More Rumors!

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