After Statia launches, do you think will we see Google prevent competitors ads, such as Xcloud, from appearing on YouTube & other Google services? And If GameStop disappears, will this put Stadia ahead of Sony in terms of marketing?Where will they show State of play? #Stadiacast
— Smash Block Games (@SmashBlockGames) May 6, 2019
I'm guessing you guys have owned a "few" consoles, what have consoles done in the past (u.i. or community wise) that you do not want to see in Stadia? For me it's the horrible PS4 community u.i. on the console, It's horrendous.
@stadiacast Hi Bill & Lloyd, Really enjoying the pod. Question, will I have to buy the Stadia controller to play Stadia? Or can I use my Switch Pro controller. And if so what will be the differences? The pro control not having wi-fi or Google button. Thanks Julian.
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“When these big, well-funded companies are building out platforms where they have limited amounts of content to actually serve up to customers, I’d say there’s a great opportunity for a company like ours”
“None of these platforms can succeed without great content. Truthfully, they really don’t know how to make it. So when you think about what will be required, it will be support from us [publishers] to allow them to actually build an audience. We have a better audience than most to capitalise on all these new platforms”
“When you own 30 years of IP like we do, there’s probably never been a better time to be in the games business”
“It’s up to us to bring it all together and have a compelling service later this year and that’s what the team is working on,” he said. “They want to see our commitment, which is what we are demonstrating and they are working hard to make the investments on their side. “So it’s a big joint effort and it’s working well.”
Feedback
@stadiacast Where do you guys stand on "game ownership"? If Google came out with a "pay X amount and you can choose up to 3 games at a time" I'll be more than happy. If Google wants me to pay 10/month to "rent" games than I would be saving money in the long run.
@stadiacast If Google really is trying to be the "Netflix of gaming", do you think we'll see different price tiers for multiple devices like Netflix? I.e. If you want to game on more than one device pay X amount.
@RunJumpStomp#stadiacast while I agree that nintendo wont make their own streaming service anytime soon, this new nintendo does seem to be a little more open with their IP. 1/2
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“We’re asking gamers to buy the game, not the platform.”
Phil Harrison
“our platform at a fundamental level has been architected to support a very wide variety of what people call ‘monetization options.’ Everything from purchase to transaction to subscription.”
Phil Harrison
“there is no technical limitation on how we have architected the platform to support a variety of business models.”
Phil Harrison
“change the way game value is perceived by players,” “When a game is a link, the Internet is your store”
The future to come will begin finally. I have been saying for over 10 years, but at the time no one understood it. With “5G” and next “6G”, the evolution of technology will not stop. The world awaited finally is about to begin. Now that 5G commercial services have begun, Google has announced a cloud gaming service, and Apple will also enhance game distribution.
As streaming advances further, video content such as games and movies and documentaries will be on the same track. This is the future I want most. What will happen if that happens? With Netflix etc., you will be able to select movies and games on the same screen. “Interactive games” and “non-interactive movies”, the quality of the content has been 180 degrees different so far, but the boundaries will disappear. This movement has already come out. The video content “Black Mirror: Banders Natch” distributed last year on Netflix is so. The story goes on by the viewer selecting the action of the protagonist at the key point. I’m approaching an interactive game.
Kojima-san
It’s definitely different. It will come out within 5 years when 5G spreads. Even with streaming, there is one big thing I want to do. I can’t say because I get so spoiled if I talk too much (laughs). In the next five years, I think that entertainment will change with artificial intelligence (AI). AI will change what you are currently doing interactively. I talked earlier about streaming interactive content that I choose, but in the next five years, an AI that understands me may choose for myself.
@stadiacast Finally caught up on Stadia cast. Great show @RunJumpStomp#3204 and Lloyd! Do you guys ever think nintendo's solution in the far future when cloud gaming takes over will be to use something like Stadia to package a subscription to their own games?
@stadiacast For example, through Stadia they sell a $10 a month package that you can play all nintendo games through and both companies take a cut of that money. Obviously it will be a while till video game streaming really takes over but
@stadiacast I can't really see nintendo creating their own streaming service as they don't seem to have enough resources, not to mention all of their online services already suck. Curious to hear your thoughts on that in a future podcast.
I think we have to assume Stadia will be a subscription service based on their claims that you can be watching a YT video or favorite streamer and just jump into that game instantly. To provide this clean cut service elimination of store fronts & $/game is essential. #StadiaCast
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Main Discussion
Stadia and AI
Google is really good at AI. Started with 1-800-GOOG-411
Cant wait for @Google#Stadia to come out full release. What an #innovative idea. Technology adapts to humans rather than humans adapt to technology. #gamers and #streamers be prepared for a #change in everything you know!!
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“Emerging competitors like Google have a cloud infrastructure, a community with YouTube, but they don’t have the content,”
But they do have Phil Harrison industry veteran with 30 years of experience.
Harrison being interviewed by Polygon said “Don’t read too much into why so-and-so was there and why so-and-so wasn’t there,” “We’ve had deep conversations over a number of years now. We’ve shipped over a hundred development kits already. We’ve got thousands of creatives already underway. So you’ll see a pretty amazing lineup come June.”
Story 3
A controller making the rounds, isn’t real. It’s a concept by Daniel Cheung
Feedback
A console’s, or in this case gaming platform, success often comes down to great exclusive titles that everyone wants to play. What do you think #googlestadia has up its sleeve in this department?
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In addition to new game types, I also think it’ll be interesting to see if games make heavier use of video. Everyone is focusing on the ability to instantly jump from YouTube to games, but the ability to jump from games to YouTube is also pretty important and overlooked.
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Main Discussion
Game ownership and preservation
How do you preserve a game that you never had the files of?
How do you preserve a game that was never designed to be run outside a data center
NEWS
Story 1
Many people play games on TVs with so much processing lag that the pixels might as well have been coming from a datacenter. Not everyone knows or bothers to enable game mode (sadly).
-Release is closer to the end of 2019 than the middle of 2019.
-Upstream needed is minimal (literally a few hundred kilobytes per second)
Story 3
Best possible environment, but damn this looked really convincing in the realm of latency.
Summary – latency was close to an Xbox One X locally.
Story 4
In an interview with Variety, Phil Harrison said there is another Stadia event coming geared toward YouTube creators sometime before summer. The YouTubers event will tackle, among other things, how those video creators will make money through the service.
Feedback
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As a representative of the 29 million Americans living on the 96.5% of the USA which is not “urban”, I’d like to chime in regarding Stadia and provide a bit of a reality check. While it is interesting technology, it is rather tone-deaf to the state of the American internet infrastructure. Most of the people I know have “broadband” clocking in under 10Mbit/s, which a considerable number (such as my parents) stuck at a 5Mbit/s tier that often doesn’t even hit that consistently. Many of these people have DSL as their only option, with the cable companies (as horrendous as they are) not considering their area to be worth running cable to. I even have a fair number of clients who are stuck at 1MBit/s DSL. Combine those speeds with latency, and then factor in the ubiquitous data caps most ISPs hit you with, and there is a serious disconnect between the utopian views of streaming-only, cloud-only lives like Stadia and the reality to American internet. The people coming up with Stadia, self-driving cars, and so on really seem to live in an Urban reality-distortion bubble which is really out of touch with the world beyond the suburbs.
Not only that, but just like digital-only gaming and the decline of physical media, I fear what a streaming-only gaming world will lead to. Digital-only and streaming-only advocates are shooting themselves in the foot and ruining so many core aspects of the gaming world. Game trading and borrowing, reselling old games, and guaranteed longevity are being sacrificed for the sake of impatience. Can you imagine if you no longer could play Super Mario Bros 3 after 1995 when the NES was discontinued? (Yes, Nintendo has been kind enough to keep it alive via “virtual console” and emulation on later consoles, but we are at their whim and viability. And for a wihle, it almost seemed we weren’t going to get retro games on the Switch)
-Scott
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